In this episode of The Backstory on the Shroud of Turin, host Guy Powell sits down with Larry Stalley, a retired Protestant pastor and biblical scholar who has dedicated the last decade to studying the Shroud. What makes Larry’s contribution unique is his deep dive into Scripture to uncover what he believes are four veiled references to the Shroud—written by Matthew, John, Paul, and the author of Hebrews.

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Larry proposes that early persecution forced early Christians to obscure their references to the Shroud to protect it. These veiled mentions, he argues, are puzzles or riddles—like the “Sign of Jonah”—which are illuminated when seen through the lens of Shroud research.

The interview also addresses a common Protestant objection: “I don’t need relics for my faith.” Larry gently counters this by affirming that faith is not opposed to evidence, but strengthened by it. He draws from Hebrews, Peter, and John to show that biblical faith is evidence-based—and the Shroud offers some of the most compelling evidence we have for the Resurrection.

Whether you’re a skeptic or a believer, this episode is rich with scriptural insight, theological reflection, and spiritual encouragement.

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